Battlefield 3

[perablenta]

Za sve one koji su se do sada mucili sad F35 link za text tutorial i setup aviona : http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3...4347898244866/

Video :

F35 bomber mode

[uros@3D]

Lista tweak-ova koji ce se naci u nadolazecem patch-u.

Spoiler za dugacka lista:

1. Damage changes
Assault Rifles:
545x45mm bullet minimum damage (All assault rifles except G3A1)
17 -> 18.4 {Buff}
G3A1
Min Damage 20 -> 22 {Buff}
Max damage 30 -> 34 {Buff}
Carbines
SCAR-H
Min Damage 17 -> 20 {Buff}
LMGs
M60 & M240B
Max damage 30 -> 34 {Buff}
Min damage 20 -> 22 {Buff}
PKP
Min damage 20 -> 22 {Buff}
M249, M27IAR, RPK-74M
Min damage 17 -> 18.4
Sniper rifles
All sniper rifles:
Upper chest damage multiplier 1 -> 1.25 {Buff}
M98B
Max damage 95 -> 80 [Nerf]
Dropoff start dist. 20 -> 15 [Nerf]
Dropoff end dist. 75 -> 120 {Buff}
All other bolt-action sniper rifles
Max damage 75 -> 80 {Buff}
Min damage 55 -> 59 {Buff}
Dropoff start dist. 20 -> 15 [Nerf]
Dropoff end dist. 75 -> 100 {Buff}
All semiautomatic sniper rifles except SKS:
Min damage: 34 -> 37.5 {Buff}
Dropoff start distance 12 -> 15 {Buff}
SKS
Dropoff end distance 50 -> 60 {Buff}

2. Attachments

Fore grip
Basically before it reduced the horizontal recoil by 50%, in these files it reduces h-recoil only ~20-33% depending on weapon.
It also increases the minimum spread 20% ~ 50% depending on stance and weapon.
Suppressor
Suppressors will not reduce the damage anymore.
Now it will reduce the distance where damage starts/stops to drop off instead.
For most weapons it will decrease the min spread by 25% instead of 50%
Although looks like M60 will still have the same 50% effect.
Heavy barrel
For most of the weapons it decreases ADS min spread by 75 or 50% depending on weapon.
Recoil is still increased by 10 or 15% and HIP min spread by 20-25% depending on weapon.
It doesn’t make AN94 100% accurate anymore while aiming down the sight.
Reduces ADS min spread by 75% and only increases recoil by 10%, the hip fire penalty is 20% for AN94
G3A1 is same than AN94 except heavy barrel increases recoil 6.7% and hip fire is increased only 14.3%
For few weapons it also makes Spread increase per shot 10% higher.
It will also increase drop-off end distance by 50% making weapons more deadly at ranges between 50m and 90m, depending on weapon.
Flash suppressor
Will decrease recoil by 17 ~ 25% depending on weapon.
For most weapons it increases hip min spread by 20~25% but some weapons don’t have any hip accuracy penalty.
Extended magazine
There seems to be extended magazine for AS VAL which didn’t exist before.
With ext mag it will have 30 bullets in a mag instead of 20

3. Accuracy changes

Assault rifles
AEK971
Recoil right 0.5 -> 0.3 [Nerf]
ADS Min Spread, Not moving 0.2 -> 0.4 [Nerf]
AK74M
Recoil up 0.3 -> 0.28 {Buff}
FirstSRecoilMul 2 -> 1.5 {Buff}
AN94
Recoil up 0.45 -> 0.3 {Buff}
FirstSRecoilMul 1.5 -> 2 [Nerf]
F2000
Recoil up 0.3 -> 0.26 {Buff}
FAMAS
Recoil left 0.6 -> 0.35 {Buff}
Recoil right 0.6 -> 0.5 {Buff}
Recoil decrease 15 -> 18 {Buff}
FirstSRecoilMul 2 -> 2.6 [Nerf]
G3A1
Recoil up 0.55 -> 0.45 {Buff}
FirstSRecoilMul 1.2 -> 1.8 [Nerf]
L85A2
Recoil left 0.4 -> 0.3 {Buff}
Recoil decrease 22 -> 18 [Nerf]
Min spread, ADS, not moving 0.4 -> 0.2 {Buff}
M416
FirstSRecoilMul 2 -> 2.4 [Nerf]
Carbines
AKS74u
Recoil up 0.3 -> 0.28 {Buff}
FirstSRecoilMul 2 -> 2.2 [Nerf]
HK53
Recoil up 0.3 -> 0.28 {Buff}
Recoil left 0.3 -> 0.2 {Buff}
Recoil right 0.5 -> 0.35 {Buff}
Recoil decrease 22 -> 18 [Nerf]
SCAR-H
Recoil decrease 15 -> 13 [Nerf]
SG553
Recoil up 0.3 -> 0.25 {Buff}
FirstSRecoilMul 2.5 -> 2.2 {Buff}
QBZ-95B
Recoil left 0.5 -> 0.335 {Buff}
Recoil right 0.5 -> 0.335 {Buff}
Recoil decrease 22 -> 18 [Nerf]
Min spread, ADS, not moving 0.4 -> 0.5 [Nerf]
LMGs
M240
FirstSRecoilMul 1 -> 1.7 {Buff}
M249
FirstSRecoilMul 1 -> 2.2 [Nerf]
Recoil decrease 15 -> 12 [Nerf]
M60
FirstSRecoilMul 2 -> 1.5
MG36
Recoil decrease 15 -> 13 [Nerf]
FirstSRecoilMul 1 -> 1.8 [Nerf]
PKP
Recoil up 0.75 -> 0.65 {Buff}
Recoil decrease 7 -> 13 {Buff}
FirstSRecoilMul 1 -> 1.5 [Nerf]
Max spread, ADS, not moving 1 -> 3 [Nerf]
Type88
Recoil left 0.4 -> 0.3
Recoil right 0.4 -> 0.3
Recoil decrease 15 -> 12 [Nerf]
FirstSRecoilMul 1.34 -> 1.5 [Nerf]
RPK
Recoil decrease 15 -> 13 [Nerf]
FirstSRecoilMul 2 -> 1.8 {Buff}
QBB-95
Recoil up 0.45 -> 0.37 {Buff}
Recoil left 0.1 -> 0.4 [Nerf]
Recoil right 0.3 -> 0.4 [Nerf]
FirstSRecoilMul 1 -> 2 [Nerf]
Recoil decrease 15 -> 13 [Nerf]
PDWs
AS VAL
Recoil left 0.2 -> 0.25 [Nerf]
Recoil right 0.3 -> 0.45 [Nerf]
Recoil decrease 22 -> 18 [Nerf]
PDW-R
Recoil decrease 22 -> 18 [Nerf]
FirstSRecoilMul 2.5 -> 2 {Buff}
Min spread, ADS, not moving 0.4 -> 0.5 [Nerf]
Min spread, ADS, moving 0.6 -> 0.8 [Nerf]
Min spread, HIP, not moving
Standing 1.5 -> 2 [Nerf]
Crouching 1 -> 1.5 [Nerf]
Prone 0.75 -> 1 [Nerf]
Min spread, HIP, moving
Standing 2 -> 2.5 [Nerf]
Crouching 1.5 -> 2 [Nerf]
Prone 1.25 -> 1.5 [Nerf]
MP7
Min spread, HIP, not moving, prone & crouching 0.75 -> 1.2 [Nerf]
Min spread, HIP,moving, prone & crouching 1.25 -> 1.5 [Nerf]
P90
Min spread, HIP, not moving, prone & crouching 0.75 -> 1.2 [Nerf]
Min spread, HIP,moving, prone & crouching 1.25 -> 1.5 [Nerf]
PP-19
Recoil decrease 25 -> 20 [Nerf]
FirstSRecoilMul 2.5 -> 2 {Buff}
Min spread, HIP, not moving, prone & crouching 0.75 -> 1.2 [Nerf]
Min spread, HIP,moving, prone & crouching 1.25 -> 1.5 [Nerf]
PP2000
Min spread, HIP, not moving, prone & crouching 0.75 -> 1.2 [Nerf]
Min spread, HIP,moving, prone & crouching 1.25 -> 1.5 [Nerf]
UMP45
Min spread, HIP, not moving, prone & crouching 0.75 -> 1.2 [Nerf]
Min spread, HIP,moving, prone & crouching 1.25 -> 1.5 [Nerf]
Pistols
G18
Recoil up 0.7 -> 0.5 {Buff}
M9
RecoilDecrease 15 -> 30 {Buff}
M93R
Recoil up 0.5 -> 0.4 {Buff}
Recoil left 0.4 -> 0.2 {Buff}
Recoil right 0.4 -> 0.2 {Buff}
FirstSRecoilMul 2.5 -> 2 {Buff}
.44 Magnum
Spread increase 0.6 -> 0.3 {Buff}

note: ovo nije sve... samo neki od tweak-ova. Kao sto vidite, tvikuju pusku po pusku a ne globalno. Bice veselo kad izadje patch.

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[Ivan1981]

I za ove tweakove im je trebalo ovoliko vremena?

Samo bacaju prasinu u oci, a commo rose, VOIP, battlerecorder ni ne spominju.A da ne spominjem to sto nema ni reci o ispravljenju pregrst bagova u igri, kao i lose detekcije pogodaka.

GJ DICE

Nije ni cudo sto ih na EA forumu pljuju i sto bf3 ea.co.uk forum zovu Mordorom, jer tamo nema lepih reci za DICE i to sa razlogom.

@uros@3D: Nema to puno veze sa CPU-om, jer je za komotno igranje dovoljan malo jaci quad.Postoje ljudi sa i7 i sa jacim grafickim kartama kojima igra secka cak i na low.Vise to zavisi od stanja OS-a, instaliranih drajvera i stanja EA servera nego do samog CPU-a/GPU-a.

[uros@3D]

Rade na commo rose 2.0, rekli su vec jedno 20 puta do sad (stavise to je jedina stvar koja je potvrdjena do sad i ovi tweak-ovi), bice isto u tom patchu. Od battlerecordera jos nista nazalost...

Za hit detekciju ne znam, meni licno odgovara ovako kako je sad. Naravno svako poboljasnje je dobrodoslo...

@zahtevnost

Ne znam, na svim ostalim mapama mi ide glatko fps ali na B2K mapama malo je stucavo dok sam pesadinac. Isto tako mi se mape iz B2K duplo brze ucitavaju od ovih standardnih... mozda ima neke veze, ko ce ga znati.

[perablenta]

uros@3D kaže:

Za hit detekciju ne znam, meni licno odgovara ovako kako je sad. Naravno svako poboljasnje je dobrodoslo...

Cek odgovara ti da pogines posle uzimanja zaklona? Ili bacanja u lezeci polozaj iza brda?

Ili ne pricamo o istoj stvari?

[Ivan1981]

uros@3D kaže:

Rade na commo rose 2.0, rekli su vec jedno 20 puta do sad, bice isto u tom patchu. Od battlerecordera jos nista nazalost...

Pa rekli su isto tako da ce da totalno preurede squad managment jos pre 3 patcha, pa su ipak uradili samo kozmeticku promenu.

Licno im vise nista ne verujem, jer su do sada lagali pregrst puta.

[uros@3D]

perablenta kaže:

Cek odgovara ti da pogines posle uzimanja zaklona? Ili bacanja u lezeci polozaj iza brda?

Ili ne pricamo o istoj stvari?

Navika iz BC2... Uostalom ne desava se uvek, zavisi od servera do servera i od tvoje veze sa istim.

Da ne bude zabune, naravno da sam i ja za to da se to sredi ali ne predstavlja mi toliki bas problem. Veci problem mi je napr. traljavi squad management ili sto nema Battlerecordera.

[Garavi]

... i bidi fin kaže:

da,bez brige,ispravljeno sa zadnjom zakrpom....
lep score

Nije mi uracunao, mada sam posle kicka ponovo usao u igru i izasao pa mi je samo uracunao jednu izgubljenu igru.
Na death match-u obicno mi je prosek 2:1, na hard core mapama je nesto preko 1, kako kad, zato me je iznerviralo sto me izbaci kad sam najbolje igrao.
Na normal ako si u vozilu nema sanse da dugo prezivis od aviona, helija, javelina, jos ako je 64 igraca to je nemoguce da se igra. I na hc samo trazim servere sa max 32 mesta, ali je teze da se pogodi iz vazduha pa sam malo opusteniji.

Bas sam citao nesto na forumu i kazu da je hc laksi mod, kao vise vole normal jer hc promovise kampovanje. Po meni je taj 3d spotting bas bezveze, skroz nerealno.

Nego jel moze nekako da se namesti da mi uvek bude velika mapa sa srednjim uvelicanjem? Pri svakom spawn-u moram da podesavam mapu.

[stankovic82]

Top 10:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zINF...layer_embedded

[gorgilije]

Smradovi:

[Game fever]

Verovatno zbog visokog pinga.

[gorgilije]

Game fever kaže:

Verovatno zbog visokog pinga.

Ma non-stop igram na nemackim serverima,i nije velik ping,nego zezaju germani.A ako je ping onda se tako i napise,a ne ovako.

[jonathan]

Citam komentare vezano za update i procitah ovo:

"Sometimes the "bad luck" is from getting killed by an admin with the 'kill' command.

I'm an admin on my clans' server and I have seen the commands and settings for this."

Zbog kojeg razloga postoji takva funkcija ako svi mogu napraviti suicide ??

[... i bidi fin]

gorgilije kaže:

Smradovi:

admini su cesto kerovi,neizivljeni klinci..... pravo admina trebada se zasluzi i da bude u rukama normalne odrasle osobe.
mnogo se ljudi zali na admine,ali se na tome i zavrsava,nazalost.

p.s.. ovo nema veze sa pingom,da vidis sta sve rade bugarima i rumunima,za plakati

[uros@3D]

jonathan kaže:

Citam komentare vezano za update i procitah ovo:

"Sometimes the "bad luck" is from getting killed by an admin with the 'kill' command.

I'm an admin on my clans' server and I have seen the commands and settings for this."

Zbog kojeg razloga postoji takva funkcija ako svi mogu napraviti suicide ??

Vidjao sam na nekim serverima da svako ko uzme nedozvoljenu klasu/oruzje popije kill od strane admina cim se spawn-uje. Rekao bih da je automatizovan proces.

Meni se desilo jednom da sam bad luck umro dok sam preskakao ogradu od pola metra neposredno nakon sto sam ubio nekog lika. Sad bar znam zasto sam umro...

Inace Bad Luck kill se uglavnom desi kada nesto padne na tebe, tipa prazan avion, dzip, tenk itd. Ako ti vozis dzip napr. i zgazis lika, dobices kill sa dzipom ali ako iskocis i prazan dzip ga pregazi njemu ce pisati "bad luck".

btw Onaj Battlelog forum je toliko rasulo da gore ne moze biti... Znaci tu svaki dan nikne bar 50 tema od kojih su vecina trolovi i attention whores, ili oni kompleksasi sa naslovima "my spm is 1000+ what is yours?", "my k/d is 50" ili ovaj biser:

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3...4347898796051/

[jonathan]

Znam ja sta je Bad Luck, nije poenta u tome vec u ovome sto sam citirao. Vjerujem da se Bad Luck desi zbog bugova.. recimo, na karkandu hocu da skcim sa baloka onog malo. Animacija preskakanja je bila ali sam i dalje ostao na balkonu, smao sa 20% energije. Valjda odalamio glavom.. hehe

..ali ce mi svaki slijedeci Bad Luck biti sumjim a nije da se desava rijetko.

[Kojic_M]

Ja tek juce poceo da igram ovu igru Steta sto pre nisam

[Isko]

kojicm kaže:

Ja tek juce poceo da igram ovu igru Steta sto pre nisam

Ja sam igrao samo betu, i sad cekam neki popust da naide i da kupim... :/

[perablenta]

Isko kaže:

Ja sam igrao samo betu, i sad cekam neki popust da naide i da kupim... :/

Do sada je bio popust 50% bar 2 ili 3 puta.

[perablenta]

Isti lik koji je izveo prosli stunt sa avionom :

He did it again!