Light Wave

[ATI`]

nesonjacc kaže:

... - Navedi mi Igre i filmove koje su radjene u lightwaveu...

FILMOVI:

Ant Bully
Garfield 2
Mission Impossible III
Poseidon
She's the Man
The DaVinci Code
The Guardian
X-Men 3: The Last Stand
A Sound of Thunder
Are We There Yet?
Bad News Bears
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Elektra
Elizabethtown
Fantastic Four
Into the Blue
Kung Fu Hustle
Mr. and Mrs. Smith
Serenity
Sin City
The Adventures of
Shark Boy & Lava Girl in 3D
Sky High
The Woods
The Aviator
Blade Trinity
The Day after Tomorrow
Exorcist: The Beginning
Flight of the Phoenix
Garfield
Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence
Harry Potter
and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Hellboy
Immortelle (ad vitam)
Innocence
I, Robot
The Manchurian Candidate
The Passion of the Christ
The Perfect Score
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
Something Borrowed
Spider-Man 2
The Terminal
Thunderbirds
Torque
Van Helsing
Agent Cody Banks
Daredevil
Duplex
Final Destination 2
Finding Nemo
Freddy vs Jason
Gothika
Holes
The Hot Chick
The Italian Job
L'apetta giulia e la signora vita
Lara Croft Tomb Raider 2:
Cradle of Life
The Last Samurai
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
Legally Blonde 2:
Red, White, and Blonde
Lord of the Rings:
The Return of the King
Looney Tunes: Back in Action
The Matrix Reloaded
The Matrix Revolutions
Pirates of the Caribbean:
The Curse of the Black Pearl
S.W.A.T.
Torque
The Triplets of Bellville
X2: X-Men United
Adaptation
The Adventures of Pluto Nash
Auto Focus
Black Hawk Down
Blade 2
Brotherhood of the Wolf
Collateral Damage
Death To Smoochy
Die Another Day
FoodFight!
Half Past Dead

[ATI`]

JOS FILMOVA:

Halloween: Resurrection
Hart's War
Impostor
Jane Goodall's
Wild Chimpanzees (Imax)
K19 The Widow Maker
Kung Pow! Enter the Fist
Master of Disguise
No Good Deed
Panic Room
The Pianist
Race To Space
Rollerball
Scooby Doo
Spider Man
Star Trek: Nemesis
Star Wars Epsiode II:
Attack of the Clones
The Time Machine
Undercover Brother
We Were Soldiers
xXx
A.I.: Artificial Intelligence
Avalon
Behind Enemy Lines
Black Knight
Bones
Corky Romano
Delivering Milo
Driven
Enigma
Final Fantasy
Going Back
Jason X
Jimmy Neutron, Boy Genius
(2002 Oscar Nominee)
Jurassic Park III
Kate and Leopold
Lara Croft Tomb Raider
Max Keeble's Big Move
Megiddo: The Omega Code 2
Monsters, Inc.
Scary Movie 2
Shipping News
Spy Kids
The One
The Others
3000 Miles to Graceland
Battlefield Earth
The Cell
Charlie's Angels
Dracula 2000
Dungeons and Dragons
Final Destination
Gladiator
How the Grinch Stole Christmas
Little Nicky
Mission to Mars
O Brother, Where Art Thou?
Pitch Black
Red Planet
Rules of Engagement
Scary Movie
The Sixth Day
Supernova
X-Men
The Astronaut's Wife
Bats
Deep Blue Sea
Deep End of the Ocean
Dogma
From Dusk Till Dawn 2
My Favorite Martian
The Thomas Crown Affair
Toy Story 2
The World Is Not Enough
Armageddon
The Avengers
The Big Hit
Blade
Blues Brothers 2000
Chairman of the Board
Deep Impact
Lost in Space
Octopus
Phantoms
Shakespeare in Love
The Siege
Tale of the Mummy
Anastasia
Conspiracy Theory
Contact
Devil's Advocate
The Fifth Element
Flubber
Free Willy 3: The Rescue
The Jackal
Men in Black
Mortal Kombat II: Annihilation
Red Corner
Spawn
Sprung
Star Kid (aka The Warrior of Waverly Street)
Titanic (Visual Effects Oscar Winner)
Wishmaster
Courage Under Fire
Galaxis
Goldeneye
Lord of Illusions
Nixon
Waterworld
Freejack
Jurassic Park
Star Trek VI:
The Undiscovered Country

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IGRE:

Dark Sector
Driver: Parallel Lines
KrabbitWorld Labyrinth
Black
Burnout: Legends (PSP)
Burnout: Revenge
Heroes of Might & Magic 6
Ridge Racer (PSP)
Ridge Racer 6 (Xbox 360)
Serious Sam 2 (PC)
Shadow of the Colossus (PS2)
Quake IV
Ace Combat 5
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance II
Burnout 3
The Chronicles of Riddick:
Escape from Butcher Bay
Cold War
Deus Ex 2: Invisible War
Doom III
Ground Control II
Powerdrome
ProPlanet Sanitaryware Browser
Targetware:
Unlimited Expansion Flight Sims
WarDevil
Battlestar Gallactica (cut scenes)
Broken Sword:
The Sleeping Dragon
Brute Force
Deus Ex 2: Invisible War
Firestorm
Port Royale
Removal Man
Serious Sam - XBox
Unreal Tournament 2003
Age of Mythology
Anno 1503
Blood Omen 2
Carnivore 3
Dead to Rights
Serious Sam: Second Encounter
Unreal Championship
007 Racing
Anachronox
Barbie Pet Rescue
Civilization III
Halo
I-War 2: The Edge of Chaos
Mechwarrior 4: Black Knight
Resident Evil: Code Veronica X
Serene Screen
Aquarium Screen Saver
Serious Sam
(2001 Game of the Year,
April 2001 PC Gamer Game of the Month)
Three Sons
(modeling / character movement)
2000:
1602 A.D.
Baldur's Gate II
Daikatana
Deus Ex (2000 Game of the Year)
Disney's Mickey Saves the Day
Escape from Monkey Island
Everquest: The Ruins of Kunark
Icewind Dale
Kiss Psycho Circus
Ms. Pac-Man Maze Madness
NFL Blitz 2000
Quake III Team Arena
Rollercoaster Tycoon:
Loopy Landscapes
StarTrek Elite Force
Star Trek: Klingon Academy
Virtual Pool 3
V-Rally 2
Abomination:The Nemesi Project
Asheron's Call
Braveheart
EverQuest
Homeworld (1999 Game of the Year)
Nomad Soul
Official F1 Racing
Omikron: The Nomad Soul
Planescape: Torment
Resident Evil: Code Veronica
Rollercoaster Tycoon
Rollercoaster Tycoon:
Corkscrew Follies
Sid Meier's Antietam
Ultima IX: Ascension
Unreal Tournament
Urban Chaos
Adidas Power Soccer 98
Baldur's Gate
Command & Conquer: Red Alert
Diablo
Duke Nukem'
Fallout
Fallout 2
Red Beard's Pirates Quest
Star Trek: Starfleet Academy
Ultima Online
Virtual Pool
Virtual Pool 2
X-Men: The Ravages of Apocalypse

[nesonjacc]

Bolje da si lepo stavio ovo
http://www.newtek.com/products/light...cts/index.html

Tu se vidi da kako idemo ka 2006 dolazimo do cinjenice da je lightwave poklekao pred konkurencijom

Sto se filmova tice ima poklapanja - jer se razliciti elementi obezbedjuju razlicitim softwerom -
Npr u blade trinity je raspadanje vampira radjeno u Maxu upotrebom plugina --Thinking particles

A i u nekim filmovima je toliko malo digitalnih intervencija da nema ni svrhe pominjati ih.

[ATI`]

nesonjacc kaže:

Bolje da si lepo stavio ovo
http://www.newtek.com/products/light...cts/index.html

Tu se vidi da kako idemo ka 2006 dolazimo do cinjenice da je lightwave poklekao pred konkurencijom

Sto se filmova tice ima poklapanja - jer se razliciti elementi obezbedjuju razlicitim softwerom -
Npr u blade trinity je raspadanje vampira radjeno u Maxu upotrebom plugina --Thinking particles

A i u nekim filmovima je toliko malo digitalnih intervencija da nema ni svrhe pominjati ih.

I work in the Film industry and have for some time now used LightWave, Maya and Softimage, and to be fare they all have there good points and bad, Lightwave is used ALOT in the industry both for polygon and character 3D, and is HIGHLY regarded because it has one of the BEST rendering engines on the planet, Maya is regarded and one of the easiest to learn, and has the best modeller available, especially studio tools, but it has the worst renderer on the market, nearly as bad as Discreets 3D Studio. Softimage|3D (not XSI) is get perfect, it is fast, and renders great, but is a pig to learn, and not cheap, XSI is also good but nowhere near as fast to work with as 3D. overall I would recommend LightWave, because of cost, and overall rendering quality, Maya if you have the dosh, but you will need to get a third party renderer, and Mental ray is not the option, too new and not properly intergrated, Renderman is great, but again at a cost.
Hope this helps.....

[ATI`]

Max ce krajem godine imati u 64-bitnoj verziji

[bobi]

ATI` kaže:

Maya is regarded and one of the easiest to learn, and has the best modeller available, especially studio tools, but it has the worst renderer on the market, nearly as bad as Discreets 3D Studio. Softimage|3D (not XSI) is get perfect, it is fast, and renders great, but is a pig to learn, and not cheap, XSI is also good but nowhere near as fast to work with as 3D. overall I would recommend LightWave, because of cost, and overall rendering quality, Maya if you have the dosh, but you will need to get a third party renderer, and Mental ray is not the option, too new and not properly intergrated, Renderman is great, but again at a cost.
Hope this helps.....

hahahaha
Sad si stvarno preterao.
Cekaj... cijem sudu ti verujes (svojem, ili nekom tamo)? Ja da imam vremena i volje, mogu da ti nadjem milion takvih intervjua koje se odnose na milion varijanti razlicitih 3D programa.

A jos mi nisi odgovorio na prvo pitanje.
U cemu se radiocity razlikuje u lighwave-u u odnosu na max-ov radiocity ili light tracer?

Sad citam, ovaj tvoj lik (koji god da je) kaze da mental ray ne treba koristiti, zato sto je jos uvek u fazi istrazivanja, ili sta ti ja znam...
Evo sad vidim...
Not properly integrated.
Mental ray u mayi "not properly integrated"?
Sta reci sad?
Znam 1000 mayasa koji bi te lincovali zbog ovoga.

Pazi sad.
On kaze da maya ima najbolji nacin modelovanja, sto uopste nije tacno, ili u najbolju ruku parcencetom, delimicno polutacno. Evo zasto.
Maya ima dobar nurbs modeling (a opet neki treci programi poput rhino-a imaju bolji), a poly modeling kakav ima max moze samo da sanja (a i mnogi drugi 3D programi).
Sad, nadam se da znas razliku izmedju nurbs i poly modelovanja.
Izvini ako lightwave nema nurbs modelovanje

Lik se dalje usudjuje da uporedi sjajan XSI sa Lightwave-om. I da XSI-u nadje mane u poredjenju sa ovim.
Greh.
XSI je jedan od najizuzetnijih programa u 3D CG industriji.

Hoces da uradimo jedan test?
Ajde da ja i ti (kada smognemo vremena) uzmemo prostu prostoriju i da nakon sto je osvetlimo koristeci standardni nacin osvetljavanja ( nema GI rendera ) izracunamo vreme koje je potrebno za vizuelizaciju iste.
Evo ja cu da je izmodelujem prostoriju u max-u i eksportovacu ti u formatu u kojem zelis.
Postavicu jedan box u sceni odakle bi svetlost trebala da bije kroz prozor.

Uzmi mayu, uzmi lightwave, uzmi XSI, uzmi sta hoces, a ja cu da uzmem max...
I na kraju preracunacemo render vreme i kvalitet ( i ustupiti projekte onima koji zele da provere).
Ljudi na ovome forumu mogu onda da prosude, ciji je realisticniji render...
A onaj ko izgubi... pazi... onaj ko izgubi... kupuje gajbu piva

Jel' moze?

[ATI`]

bobi kaže:

hahahaha ....A onaj ko izgubi... pazi... onaj ko izgubi... kupuje gajbu piva

Jel' moze?

Pusti render, ajde odmah da uzmemo tu gajbu

nije ravnopravno sto se tice brzine rendera, LW3D je 64bit :P

[3dM@niak]

ovaj tekst ne znam odakle ti, ali recimo sledece: ja znam da radim fino u maxu, ali samo citao dosta i o maji... skoro sve ovde sto je receno o maxu i maji je netacno. Mental ray je integrisan u max skoro kao scanline, a isto mislim da je dobro integrisan u Mayu.
Drugo, maja je teza od maxa za ucenje, a max ima bolji default renderer. Max je mnogo bolji za modelovanje (poly) od Maye, dok Maya ima jakeee nurbse i dobar char modeling i animaciju...
cek, ajd da malo usporimo... jel ti radis u lightwave-u?
daj neki svoj radi u lightwave-u, pa da vidimo sta moze da se uradi.
Da ne pricamo na prazno ovako.
A maya je glavna u filmskoj industriji, to se zna.

[Highlander]

bobi kaže:

A onaj ko izgubi... pazi... onaj ko izgubi... kupuje gajbu piva

Jel' moze?

Ma šta gajbu piva! Za svakog ko koristi max po jednu!

Posmatram vas već duže vreme kako se raspravljate, i nažalost ne mogu da upadnem u svadju jer nikad nisam koristio LightWave (a i nemam nameru) pa ne mogu da ga poredjujem sa Maksom (koji koristim!). Verujem da je to slučaj i sa izvesnim korisnicima koji su oduševljeni spiskom filmova i igara koji su radjeni u LW a nemaju blage veze sa ovim drugim.

[ATI`]

Highlander kaže:

Ma šta gajbu piva! Za svakog ko koristi max po jednu!

Posmatram vas već duže vreme kako se raspravljate, i nažalost ne mogu da upadnem u svadju jer nikad nisam koristio LightWave (a i nemam nameru) pa ne mogu da ga poredjujem sa Maksom (koji koristim!). Verujem da je to slučaj i sa izvesnim korisnicima koji su oduševljeni spiskom filmova i igara koji su radjeni u LW a nemaju blage veze sa ovim drugim.

Imam blage veze sa drugim, vec sam napisao da sam jedno vreme radio u 3D Studio-u za DOS ali sam i kasnije povremeno pratio razvoj MAX-a. Medjutim na LW3D-u sam zaradjivao parice, i kad sam prestao to da radim pratio sam redovno njegov razvoj, i sto se bar mene tice ne vidim ni jedan razlog zbogo kojeg bih, ako bih to ponovo radio presao na nesto drugo!

[Highlander]

ATI` kaže:

Imam blage veze sa drugim, vec sam napisao da sam jedno vreme radio u 3D Studio-u za DOS ali sam i kasnije povremeno pratio razvoj MAX-a. Medjutim na LW3D-u sam zaradjivao parice, i kad sam prestao to da radim pratio sam redovno njegov razvoj, i sto se bar mene tice ne vidim ni jedan razlog zbogo kojeg bih, ako bih to ponovo radio presao na nesto drugo!

Ali pazi: DOS!
Pitanje: Jesi li radio na nekom filmu i zaradjivao parice ili si radio reklame?

[bobi]

ATI` kaže:

Imam blage veze sa drugim, vec sam napisao da sam jedno vreme radio u 3D Studio-u za DOS ali sam i kasnije povremeno pratio razvoj MAX-a. Medjutim na LW3D-u sam zaradjivao parice, i kad sam prestao to da radim pratio sam redovno njegov razvoj, i sto se bar mene tice ne vidim ni jedan razlog zbogo kojeg bih, ako bih to ponovo radio presao na nesto drugo!

Pa evo ti jedan razlog za pocetak.
Organsko modelovanje.

Ali jos mi nisi odgovorio na pitanja.

[nesonjacc]

Cek cek
On rece - Dos.
A onda je radio u lightwaveu i prestao da radi---iz ovoga se moze zakljuciti Poodavno

3ds za dos je bio modularan kao i Lightwave
Dok je 3ds MAX nesto sasvim drugo

A onda si POVREMENO pratio razvoj i jednog i drugog
Bogami ala si ispratio svaka ti cast( mislim za povremeno)

Ovo stvarno namece pitanje - STA SI TI TO RADIO U LIGHTWAVEU i zaradjivao parice????

Inace u onom spisku naveden je i LORD OF THE RINGS -THE RETURN OF THE KING. E bas me zanima sta je radjeno u LW za ovo.
Jer i Cavke na grani znaju da WETA digital( koja je radila 100% digital worka za Lotr) radi iskljucivo u MAYI i Massivu( massive prime - 17000$)

P.S - Sto se renderovanja u Mayi tice -Samo cu da kazem RENDERMAN

[ATI`]

nesonjacc kaže:

...Ovo stvarno namece pitanje - STA SI TI TO RADIO U LIGHTWAVEU i zaradjivao parice????...

TV reklame i uvodne spice za neke emisije.

[nesonjacc]

Pa sigurno smo nesto od toga videlil.

Daj primer???

[Highlander]

nesonjacc kaže:

Pa sigurno smo nesto od toga videlil.

Daj primer???

Samo da nadje spisak sa nekog sajta.

[ATI`]

Highlander kaže:

Samo da nadje spisak sa nekog sajta.

HAHA Pa zar mislis da cu ja da se pravdam nekom

[Psychon@ut]

Ajde ljudi izqulirajte.Nema svrhe ulaziti u ovkve rasprave.Navedite dobre loše osobine ovog programa ako ste ga koristili, recite zašto je bolji, zašto lošiji.Neko ko nema pojma ništa pametno ne može da čuje ovde .

[ATI`]

Napraviti balon koji izduva a onda ga gravitacija povuce na zemlju traje nekih 10-tak sec. a ako bas treba detaljno podesiti parametre moze da se "razvuce" i na ceo minut, naravno prikaz je realtime